Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci said President Donald Trump would be forced to resign if the Senate were to call any one of four people to testify in the upcoming impeachment trial.
Scaramucci, who served less than two weeks in the Trump administration in 2017, remarked that Trump couldn’t “handle the heat of that testimony” Saturday morning as a panelist on MSNBC’s AM Joy, hosted by Joy Reid.
At the start of the discussion, Scaramucci went after Senate Republicans, whom he accused of “allowing” Trump to break the law. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell previously sparked outrage among Democrats by vowing to work “in total coordination” with the White House ahead of the Senate impeachment trial, which will determine whether or not the now-impeached president will see out his term in office.
“Joy, we haven’t even seen the primary witness testimony. Those four people, whether it’s Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani, Pompeo—if they have to testify under oath, he has to leave,” Scaramucci told Reid, referring to the Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney; former National Security Adviser John Bolton; Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani; and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Any one of the four, in Scaramucci’s estimation, could provide enough direct evidence of the president’s alleged misdeeds to motivate him to resign rather than face the fallout from their revelations.
Scaramucci also referenced “four senators,” the number of Republicans who would have to vote with their Democrat and independent colleagues to create a majority push to call witnesses at the trial next month.
“He’s going to be scoundrel No. 1 because he’s going to leave before that testimony is brought,” Scaramucci concluded.
“You think he’s going to resign?” Reid pressed.
“There’s no way he can handle the heat of that testimony. And, by the way, the people that work with him know that he’s amoral and they know he’s lawless. Just go back to what [former White House Chief of Staff] John Kelly said: ‘Hire a yes person, you’re going to get yourself impeached.'”
Pivoting slightly, Scaramucci turned the conversation to an open letter the president addressed to Democratic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi earlier in the week, saying, “John Kelly never would have let that six-page letter get out.”
In the letter, Trump wrote: “I have been deprived of basic Constitutional Due Process (sic) from the beginning of this impeachment scam right up until the present. I have been denied the most fundamental rights afforded by the Constitution, including the right to present evidence, to have my own counsel present, to confront accusers, and to call and cross-examine witnesses like the so-called whistleblower who started this entire hoax with a false report of the phone call that bears no relationship to the actual phone call that was made.”
One of the two articles under which the House of Representatives voted to impeach the president cited Abuse of Power. The allegation related to a July 25 phone call during which Trump repeatedly asked the Ukrainian president to launch investigations into Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, who previously sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company.
While the president and supporters such as Senator Lindsey Graham continue to argue that Democrats have not allowed Trump to defend himself, other allies, such as McConnell, have opposed calling witnesses in the Senate trial.